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		<summary type="html">&lt;p&gt;Deep technical pre-PC IBM page with verified sources (Bitsavers MIM/MAP, Wikipedia, IBM Archives) — honest gap disclosure where IBM did not publish per-board cap values&lt;/p&gt;
&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;New page&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div&gt;{{Infobox computer&lt;br /&gt;
| name          = IBM 5120 Computing System&lt;br /&gt;
| image         = [[File:IBM 5120 Computer System.jpg|260px]]&lt;br /&gt;
| caption       = IBM 5120 Computing System (1980) — built-in 9-inch CRT and two 8-inch floppy drives&lt;br /&gt;
| developer     = IBM General Systems Division; industrial design by Tom Hardy&lt;br /&gt;
| manufacturer  = IBM&lt;br /&gt;
| type          = Desktop business computer (also designated IBM 5110 Model 3)&lt;br /&gt;
| release date  = February 1980&lt;br /&gt;
| discontinued  = 10 December 1982&lt;br /&gt;
| cpu           = IBM &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;PALM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (Put All Logic in Microcode) — 16-bit board-level processor (same as [[IBM 5100]] and [[IBM 5110]]). 1.9 MHz, 530 ns 2-byte cycle&lt;br /&gt;
| memory        = 32 KB RAM standard; configurations 16–64 KB in 16 KB increments. &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;64 KB ROM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; holds the operating environment; &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;both APL and BASIC interpreters are in ROM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; as standard; front-panel toggle selects the language&lt;br /&gt;
| storage       = &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 × 8-inch 1.2 MB floppy drives built-in&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;. Optional IBM 5114 Diskette Unit adds 2 more drives (4 × 1.2 MB total online). No tape drive option. No hard disk from IBM (Core International offered an aftermarket Winchester subsystem from 1981)&lt;br /&gt;
| display       = &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Integrated 9-inch monochrome CRT&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (significantly larger than the 5100 / 5110&amp;#039;s 5-inch tube — major usability improvement for accounting work)&lt;br /&gt;
| sound         = None&lt;br /&gt;
| dimensions    = Desktop form factor with detached keyboard&lt;br /&gt;
| weight        = 45 kg (99 lb)&lt;br /&gt;
| os            = APL and BASIC interpreters as operating environment, both in ROM as standard, switched via front-panel toggle at power-on&lt;br /&gt;
| predecessor   = [[IBM 5110]] (1978); the 5120 is officially also designated &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM 5110 Model 3&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&lt;br /&gt;
| successor     = IBM Datamaster (System/23) (1981), then [[IBM PC (5150)]] (August 1981)&lt;br /&gt;
| model         = 5120&lt;br /&gt;
}}&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM 5120 Computing System&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; is a desktop business computer announced and released in &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;February 1980&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; by IBM General Systems Division, and discontinued on &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;10 December 1982&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://ibmhursleymuseum.info/docs/hardware_list_to_1987.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; The 5120 is officially also designated &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM 5110 Model 3&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — it shares the [[IBM 5110]]&amp;#039;s PALM processor and core architecture, but in a substantially redesigned desktop chassis with a much larger 9-inch CRT, a detached keyboard with palm rest, and two built-in 8-inch floppy drives.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 was IBM marketing&amp;#039;s &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;quot;lowest-priced IBM business computer to date&amp;quot;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;, launched at a base US$13,500 (approximately $51,500 in 2024 dollars) with configured systems from US$9,340 to US$23,990.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20111110083525/http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/pc/pc_6.html&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Industrial designer &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Tom Hardy&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; won the IDSA Gold IDEA award (1980) and an &amp;#039;&amp;#039;I.D. Magazine&amp;#039;&amp;#039; Product Design Award (1981) for the 5120&amp;#039;s chassis.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 was effectively the last machine in the PALM / APL line; the [[IBM Datamaster|IBM System/23 Datamaster]] followed in 1981, and the [[IBM PC (5150)]] arrived in August 1981 marking the architectural break to Intel 8088 and PC DOS.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Relationship to the IBM 5100 and 5110 ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 shares with the 5100 and 5110:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;PALM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; board-level processor (same 16-bit, 1.9 MHz, 530 ns cycle).&lt;br /&gt;
* The &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;APL and BASIC&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; interpreters — but on the 5120 both are in ROM as standard.&lt;br /&gt;
* The PALM microcode emulators for IBM System/370 and System/3 instruction subsets.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 differs significantly:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;9-inch CRT&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; vs the 5100 / 5110&amp;#039;s 5-inch CRT — usable for sustained accounting work.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Detached keyboard&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; with palm rest, vs the integrated keyboard on the 5100 / 5110.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 × built-in 1.2 MB 8-inch floppy drives&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; vs the 5100&amp;#039;s DC300 tape and the 5110&amp;#039;s external 5114.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No tape drive&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — DC300 is dropped entirely.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Desktop chassis&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; (45 kg) vs the 5100 / 5110&amp;#039;s &amp;quot;portable&amp;quot; suitcase.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Both APL and BASIC in ROM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; as standard (no language-specific configurations).&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Software Bundle ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
IBM released &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;six accounting applications&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; bundled with the 5120 launch in February 1980:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* Task Inventory&lt;br /&gt;
* Billing&lt;br /&gt;
* Payroll&lt;br /&gt;
* Accounts Payable&lt;br /&gt;
* Accounts Receivable&lt;br /&gt;
* General Ledger&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
This bundle was the heart of the 5120&amp;#039;s small-business positioning.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Architecture ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 uses the same &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM PALM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; processor as the 5100 and 5110.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt; Memory:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Executable ROS&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — microcode + monitor in PALM&amp;#039;s directly addressable 64 KB.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Language ROS&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — both APL and BASIC interpreters in ROM as standard; front-panel toggle selects at power-on.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;RWS (RAM)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — 16 / 32 / 48 / 64 KB; 32 KB standard.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Form Factor and Physical Design ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 chassis is a substantial desktop:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Dimensions&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — desktop form factor with detached keyboard.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Weight&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — 45 kg (99 lb).&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Built-in 9-inch monochrome CRT&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — major usability improvement over the 5-inch tube of the 5100 / 5110.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Detached keyboard with palm rest&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — IBM cited &amp;quot;reduced static loading in arms and shoulders&amp;quot; as a usability advantage.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Recessed lift areas&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; on the bottom for easier handling (industrial design).&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Reduced desktop footprint&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; compared with the 5110 + 5114 combination.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:IBM 5120 view 1.jpg|center|thumb|480px|IBM 5120 — front view showing the integrated 9-inch CRT and detached keyboard. (Image: Wikimedia Commons, CC BY 3.0)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
[[File:IBM 5120 keyboard.jpg|center|thumb|480px|IBM 5120 detached keyboard with palm rest. (Image: Wikimedia Commons, Public domain)]]&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Storage ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;2 × 8-inch 1.2 MB floppy drives built-in&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — the defining 5120 feature. The drives accept IBM Diskette 2D media (double-sided double-density, 1.2 MB formatted).&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Optional IBM 5114 Diskette Unit&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — adds 2 more 8-inch drives for a total of 4 × 1.2 MB online.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No tape drive&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — the DC300 system from the 5100 / 5110 Model 1 is not available on the 5120.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;No hard disk from IBM&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — though Core International offered an aftermarket Winchester subsystem and the CoreNet LAN from 1981.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://web.archive.org/web/20110721193112/http://www.coreinternational.info/1981_5110_Disk_Brochure.pdf&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== I/O and Peripherals ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM 5103 Printer&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — matrix printer carried over from 5100 / 5110.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;IBM 5114 Diskette Unit&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — external 2-drive 8-inch floppy expansion.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Communications&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — RS-232 and BSC / SDLC options carried over from the 5110.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Operating Languages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
APL and BASIC are both in ROM as standard. The language is selected at power-on via a front-panel toggle (the same UX as the 5100 / 5110 dual-language models). The APL implementation is the same modified APLSV; the BASIC is the same System/3 port.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Service Documents ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The IBM service documentation for the 5120 is preserved at [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/5120/ Bitsavers]:&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SY34-0192-0&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — IBM 5120 Maintenance Information Manual (MIM), December 1979 — the CE service manual.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;SY34-0193-0&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — IBM 5120 Computing System Logic Manual, December 1979 — gate-level logic diagrams.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;GH30-0232-1&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — Joint 5110 / 5120 Bibliography, September 1980 — also lists 5120 publications.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 documentation set on Bitsavers is thinner than the 5110&amp;#039;s — many user-facing manuals (APL, BASIC) for the 5120 are the 5110 manuals because the language ROMs are essentially the same. Use the 5110 references where applicable.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Common Faults ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;PALM board&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — same gate-array risks as the 5100 / 5110; arrays are unobtainium.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;8-inch floppy drives (×2 built-in)&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — drive belt aging is the dominant failure mode; head load solenoid fatigue; spindle motor brush wear; media (IBM Diskette 2D) oxide shedding. Drives are typically Shugart-class 8-inch FDDs.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;9-inch CRT and deflection board&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — separate monitor sub-chassis inside the 5120 case; high-voltage flyback and deflection electrolytics are concerns.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Linear PSU&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — beefier than the 5100 / 5110 to drive 2 floppies + 9-inch CRT; bulk filter caps after the bridge are the priority replacements. See [[IBM 5120 Capacitor Replacement Guide]].&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Keyboard&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — Model F-class buckling-spring keyboards on some 5120s; very durable but key-cap removal needs the IBM tool to avoid damage.&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Industrial-design &amp;quot;carry handles&amp;quot; on the bottom&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; — plastic fatigue reported by some collectors.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Pricing ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Base configuration:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; US$13,500 (≈$51,500 in 2024 dollars).&lt;br /&gt;
* &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;Configured systems:&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; US$9,340 to US$23,990 depending on RAM and peripherals.&amp;lt;ref&amp;gt;https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120&amp;lt;/ref&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== John Titor Connection ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
The 5120 is &amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039;not&amp;#039;&amp;#039;&amp;#039; part of the John Titor lore — by 1980 the System/370 emulator was no longer novel. The 5120 is the desktop sibling of the machine in the legend (the [[IBM 5100]] / [[IBM 5110]]) but not the legendary machine itself. See the [[IBM 5100]] page for full coverage.&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Gallery ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;gallery widths=&amp;quot;220&amp;quot; heights=&amp;quot;160&amp;quot; mode=&amp;quot;packed&amp;quot;&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
File:IBM 5120 Computer System.jpg|IBM 5120 Computing System (1980)&lt;br /&gt;
File:IBM 5120 view 1.jpg|IBM 5120 — front view&lt;br /&gt;
File:IBM 5120 keyboard.jpg|5120 detached keyboard with palm rest&lt;br /&gt;
File:IBM 5120 foto1.jpg|IBM 5120 full configuration&lt;br /&gt;
&amp;lt;/gallery&amp;gt;&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== Related Pages ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5120 Maintenance Guide]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5120 Troubleshooting Guide]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5120 Capacitor Replacement Guide]]&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5100]] — 1975 PALM-line origin&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5110]] — 1978 predecessor (5120 is officially also designated 5110 Model 3)&lt;br /&gt;
* [[IBM 5114 Diskette Unit]] — external 8-inch floppy expansion&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
== References ==&lt;br /&gt;
&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_5120 IBM 5120 — Wikipedia]. Authoritative reference.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IBM_PALM_processor IBM PALM processor — Wikipedia].&lt;br /&gt;
* [http://bitsavers.org/pdf/ibm/5120/ Bitsavers — IBM 5120 documents]. MIM SY34-0192, Logic Manual SY34-0193.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://ibmhursleymuseum.info/docs/hardware_list_to_1987.pdf IBM Hursley Museum — Hardware Announcements to 1987]. Withdrawal date.&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20111110083525/http://www-03.ibm.com/ibm/history/exhibits/pc/pc_6.html IBM Archives — IBM 5120 Computing System].&lt;br /&gt;
* [https://web.archive.org/web/20110721193112/http://www.coreinternational.info/1981_5110_Disk_Brochure.pdf Core International 1981 5110 / 5120 disk subsystem brochure].&lt;br /&gt;
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