Macintosh Centris 660AV Troubleshooting - Revision history

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			== Component-level faults (deep dive) ==

			=== Surface-mount capacitor leakage ===

			The Macintosh Centris 660AV logic board uses surface-mount electrolytic capacitors whose electrolyte turns corrosive with age and creeps across the board, eating through traces, pads and IC pins. Typical signatures are a machine that will not chime, chimes but shows no video, plays distorted or missing audio, or shows a garbled or checkerboard screen. Wash the affected area and replace every electrolytic with a tantalum or polymer part, then repair any lifted traces. The switch-mode power supply (ASTEC or TDK on the LC-family machines) holds its own electrolytics and fails the same way, so recap it alongside the board.<ref name="caps">Mac84, [https://mac84.net/web/macintosh-lc-series-lc-lc-ii-lc-iii-power-supply-recapping-guide-astec-usa/ Macintosh LC series power-supply recapping guide]; the [http://www.maccaps.com/MacCaps/Capacitor_Reference/Capacitor_Reference.html MacCaps capacitor reference]; and iFixit. Source for surface-mount electrolytic leakage eating traces, pads and pins, the ASTEC/TDK LC power-supply cap failures, and Apple's use of tantalum (non-leaking) capacitors on the Quadra 700/900 logic boards.</ref>

			=== PRAM battery ===

			The Macintosh Centris 660AV backs up its clock and Parameter RAM from a 3.6 V ½AA lithium cell. These cells — red Maxell parts especially — leak or burst and corrode the board, so remove an aged one on sight. A flat cell can also stop a soft-power machine booting or disturb the video; left plugged in, trickle power preserves the settings, but a machine switched off at the wall with a dead cell loses them. Clean the area and fit a fresh 3.6 V cell.<ref name="pram">[https://68kmla.org/bb/threads/warning-exploding-maxell-pram-batteries.25169/ Warning! Exploding Maxell PRAM batteries], 68kMLA; and [https://www.macdat.net/repair/kb/batteries_macintosh.html Mac Battery Leaks], MacDat. Source for the 3.6 V ½AA lithium PRAM cell, the Maxell leak/explosion board damage, and soft- versus hard-power PRAM retention.</ref>

			=== Boot chime and Sad Mac ===

			Read the start-up sound first: a normal chime with a black screen points to the display path or the monitor, an absent chime or a "chord of death" points to RAM or a core fault, and a Sad Mac shows a numeric code — see [[Sad Mac Error Codes]].

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Troubleshooting the '''Macintosh Centris 660AV''' (also sold as the Quadra 660AV) requires understanding its unique architecture, including the AT&T DSP and GeoPort features. This guide covers the most common problems and their solutions.

== Preliminary Checks ==

Before detailed troubleshooting:

* Verify the power cable is firmly connected
* Check that the power outlet is working
* Ensure all cables (keyboard, mouse, monitor) are properly seated
* Remove any recently added RAM or expansion cards
* Reset PRAM (Cmd-Opt-P-R at startup, hold through three chimes)
* Reset CUDA (remove power and PRAM battery for 10 minutes)

== No Power ==

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|+ '''Power Issues'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| Dead, no LED || Power supply failure || Check power cable; test outlet; inspect PSU for dust buildup on filter mesh
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| Dead, no LED || PRAM battery dead || Replace 3.6V half-AA lithium battery
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| Ticking sound || Power supply fault || Check for shorts on logic board; inspect capacitors; test with known-good PSU
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| Powers on briefly, then off || Short circuit || Remove all cards and RAM; test with minimal configuration
|-
| Fan spins but no boot || Logic board failure || Check for capacitor leakage; inspect for corrosion
|}

== No Video ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Video Problems'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| Chime but no video || PRAM battery dead || Replace battery (common issue on 660AV/840AV per Apple KB TA35928)
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| Chime but no video || VRAM failure || 660AV VRAM is soldered; board repair or replacement required
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| Chime but no video || Monitor cable issue || Test with different monitor and cable
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| Garbled display || VRAM failure || Test with external video card if available
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| No video to TV/VCR || Video mirroring unsupported || This is normal; 660AV does not mirror to TV (monitor goes blank during video output)
|}

'''Tip:''' Hold Cmd-Opt-T-V during startup to force the Mac to use a TV as a monitor.

== Chime Codes and Startup Issues ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Startup Sounds'''
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! Sound !! Meaning !! Action
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| Normal chime || Hardware OK || Issue is software or peripheral
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| No chime || RAM failure or no power || Check power supply; reseat/test RAM
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| Broken chime || RAM failure || Reseat or replace RAM SIMMs
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| Series of tones || Hardware diagnostic failure || Count tones; refer to Apple service codes
|}

== Intermittent Booting or Freezing ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Stability Issues'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| Random freezes || Failing capacitors || Inspect logic board for leakage; recap if needed
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| Freezes after warmup || Thermal issue || Clean dust; check fan operation; reseat chips
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| Freezes during disk access || SCSI termination issue || Verify internal drive is terminated; check SCSI ID conflicts
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| Freezes with extensions || Software conflict || Boot with Extensions Off (hold Shift); isolate problem extension
|}

== Sad Mac Error Codes ==

The 660AV displays Sad Mac codes in the format XXXXXXXX / YYYYYYYY where the first number indicates the error class.

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Common Sad Mac Codes'''
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! First Digit(s) !! Error Type
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| 01 || ROM test failed
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| 02 || Memory test – bus sub-test failed
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| 03 || Memory test – byte write failed
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| 04 || Memory test – addressing failed
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| 05 || Memory test – pattern failed
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| 0F || Reserved for internal use
|}

See [[Sad Mac Error Codes]] for a complete reference.

== Audio Problems ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Audio Issues'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| No sound || Muted in Sound control panel || Check volume setting
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| No sound || Capacitor failure || Inspect and recap logic board
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| Distorted sound || Failing capacitors || Recap logic board
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| PlainTalk not working || DSP issue || Reinstall system software; check DSP chip
|}

== GeoPort and Modem Issues ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''GeoPort Problems'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| GeoPort adapter not recognized || Driver issue || Reinstall GeoPort software
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| No dial tone || Adapter not connected properly || Check cable; try other GeoPort
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| Poor modem performance || DSP load || Close other applications using DSP
|}

== Video Capture Problems ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Video I/O Issues'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| No video input || Wrong input selected || Check Video control panel settings
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| Grainy capture || Poor signal || Use S-Video instead of composite; check cables
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| Dropped frames || Slow hard drive || Use faster SCSI drive; reduce capture resolution
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| Audio/video sync issues || Buffer settings || Adjust capture software settings
|}

== Floppy Drive Issues ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''Floppy Problems'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| Cannot read disks || Dirty heads || Use cleaning disk; clean heads manually
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| Disk eject failure (auto-inject) || Mechanical wear || Lubricate mechanism; replace drive
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| Cannot write to disks || Write protect tab || Check disk; try different disk
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| Disks not recognized || Drive failure || Replace floppy drive
|}

See [[Macintosh Floppy Drive Maintenance]] for detailed drive service procedures.

== SCSI Problems ==

{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;"
|+ '''SCSI Issues'''
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! Symptom !! Possible Cause !! Recommended Action
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| External device not found || Termination issue || Only terminate last device in chain
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| Device conflict || Duplicate SCSI ID || Assign unique IDs (internal drive is usually 0)
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| Slow performance || Cable quality || Use high-quality shielded cables
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| Intermittent device || Loose connection || Check and reseat all SCSI cables
|}

== Software Compatibility ==

* '''System 7.5–7.5.3:''' The Startup Disk control panel is incompatible with Quadra AVs. Upgrade to System 7.5.5.
* '''24-bit addressing:''' Not supported. Ensure 32-bit mode is enabled.
* '''PowerPC upgrades:''' Require a "fat" (universal) system installation.
* '''Mac OS 8.1:''' Maximum supported version without PowerPC upgrade.
* '''Mac OS 9.1:''' Supported with PowerPC upgrade card installed.

== Related Pages ==

* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV General Maintenance]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV Capacitor Replacement Guide]]
* [[Sad Mac Error Codes]]
* [[Macintosh Floppy Drive Maintenance]]

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