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[[File:C64 Logic Board.jpg|thumb|360px|A 250407 "long board" (artwork 251137 rev. C). The large axial electrolytics in the power section at the right are C19, C88 and C90.]] | |||
The tables below give the electrolytic capacitors on the '''[[Commodore 64]]''' long boards (assemblies 326298, 250407, 250425 and 250441) and on the 250466 (B-3) board. Every value comes from Commodore's own parts lists in the ''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (March 1992, PN-314001-03).<ref name="sm">Commodore Business Machines, ''Service Manual C64/C64C'', March 1992, PN-314001-03, hosted at [[Commodore 64 / 64C Service Manual]]. Board identification p. 17; parts lists for 326298 pp. 19-20, 250407-04 pp. 24-25, 250425-01 pp. 29-30, 250466-01 (B-3) pp. 34-35.</ref> The 250469 (E) board used in most [[Commodore 64C]] machines has a different power circuit and its own list in the [[Commodore 64C Capacitor Replacement Guide]]. | |||
The ceramic, mica and film capacitors on these boards are not included. Commodore's lists give their values if one is damaged. | |||
== | == Identify the board == | ||
The assembly number is printed on the board, usually near the cartridge port edge. Commodore's identification table:<ref name="smid">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "C64 Board Identification" and "C64C Board Identification", p. 17.</ref> | |||
The assembly number is | |||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:left;" | {| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:left;" | ||
|+''' | |+'''Commodore 64 board assemblies''' | ||
! | ! Version !! Assembly !! Schematic !! Identifying factor (Commodore) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Original || | | Original || 326298-01 || 326106 || 5-pin video connector (CN5) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| A (CR) || | | A (CR) || 250407 || 251138 || 8-pin video connector | ||
|- | |- | ||
| B || | | B || 250425 || 251469 || 8-pin; reduced oscillator circuit | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | B-2 || 250441-01 || 251469 || As B, with component location changes | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | B-3 || 250466-01 || 252278 || Only two RAM chips, U9 and U10 | ||
|- | |||
| E || 250469 || 252312 || BASIC and KERNAL combined in U4; memory controller at U8 | |||
|} | |} | ||
== | Commodore's table prints the B-3 assembly as "250446"; its parts list and board layout for the same board say 250466.<ref name="smb3">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "Parts List, PCB Assembly #250466-01 C64-B3", pp. 34-35, and "B-3 Board Layout", p. 36.</ref> The manual has no separate parts list for the B-2 (250441): Commodore says all its circuits are those of the B (schematic 251469), with resistors R28, R29, R30, R36 and R48 replaced by resistor pack RP5 and diodes CR100-CR105 moved to CR9 and CR12-CR16.<ref name="smid" /> Use the 250425 list and check positions against the board. | ||
== The power section == | |||
The external supply delivers regulated +5 V DC on CN7 pin 5 and 9 V AC on pins 6 and 7; pins 1, 2 and 3 are ground. The +5 V from the brick passes the power switch and powers the logic directly. On the board, the 9 V AC is used three ways:<ref name="smps">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), Circuit Theory, "The Power Supply", p. 4 (text and power-input diagram).</ref> | |||
* Bridge rectifier CR4 and reservoir C19 feed VR2 (MC7805CT), whose output, "+5 V CAN", is filtered into Vvid for the video circuits and Vc for the clock circuits. | |||
* The 9 V AC is "added to 9VDC through CR6, and rectified by CR5"; on Commodore's diagram C90 couples the AC into this circuit. The result is filtered by C88 and C89 and regulated to +12 V by VR1 (MC7812CT) for the VIC-II, the SID and the audio stages. | |||
* CR4's output, unregulated, is the +9 V supply for the cassette motor circuit and, on the B board, the RF modulator. | |||
C91 (100 µF) sits on the +5 V input after the power switch.<ref name="smps" /> | |||
== | == Electrolytic capacitors by board == | ||
All values and ratings below are as printed in Commodore's parts lists. Fit at least the voltage rating shown. | |||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align: | === 326298-01 (original) === | ||
|+'''326298-01 electrolytics'''<ref name=" | {| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;" | ||
! Ref !! | |+'''326298-01 electrolytics'''<ref name="sm326">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "Parts List - PCB Assembly #326298", pp. 19-20.</ref> | ||
! Ref !! Capacitance !! Rating !! Tolerance | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C19 || 2200 µF || 16 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C88 || 470 µF || 50 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C90 || 470 µF || 50 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C91 || 100 µF || 16 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| C8, | | C8, C12, C13, C14, C15, C17, C24, C34, C57, C62, C64, C65, C94, C102 || 10 µF || 25 V || +50 % / −10 % | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== 250407 | === 250407 (A) === | ||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;" | |||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align: | |+'''250407-04 electrolytics'''<ref name="sm407">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "Parts List - PCB Assembly #250407-04", pp. 24-25.</ref> | ||
|+'''250407-04 electrolytics'''<ref name=" | ! Ref !! Capacitance !! Rating !! Tolerance | ||
! Ref !! | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C19 || 2200 µF || 16 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C88 || 1000 µF || 25 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C90 || 470 µF || 50 V || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C91 || 100 µF || 16 V || +50 % / −10 % | ||
|- | |- | ||
| C8, | | C8, C13, C14, C15, C17, C24, C34, C57, C62, C65, C94, C102 || 10 µF || 25 V || +50 % / −10 % | ||
|- | |- | ||
| C108 || 10 µF || 25 V || 20 % | | C108 || 10 µF || 25 V || 20 % | ||
|} | |} | ||
=== 250425-01 | C88 differs between documents. Commodore's 1983 drawing for assembly 250407 revision B lists C88 and C90 as 470 µF 50 V (part 900101-34), and C12 as a 10 µF electrolytic; the service manual's 250407-04 list gives C88 as 1000 µF 25 V and C12 as a 0.1 µF ceramic.<ref name="tm407">Commodore, ''Commodore 64 Computer Technical Manual'', P/N 990439, drawing 250407 rev. B, sheet 3 of 7 (PDF p. 6), items 47-50, hosted at [[Commodore 64 Technical Manual and Parts List]].</ref><ref name="sm407" /> Console5's kit list gives 470 µF at C88 for revision B and earlier boards and 1000 µF from revision C.<ref name="c5">Console5 TechWiki, [https://wiki.console5.com/wiki/Commodore_64 "Commodore 64"], capacitor lists for assemblies 326298, 250407, 250425, 250466 and 250469 (secondary source). Retrieved 2026-10-01.</ref> Read the part fitted to your board; a 1000 µF 25 V part covers either. | ||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align: | === 250425 (B) and 250441 (B-2) === | ||
|+'''250425-01 electrolytics'''<ref name=" | {| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;" | ||
! Ref !! | |+'''250425-01 electrolytics'''<ref name="sm425">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "Parts List - PCB Assembly #250425-01", pp. 29-30.</ref> | ||
! Ref !! Capacitance !! Rating !! Tolerance !! Type | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C19 || 2200 µF || 16 V || || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C88 || 1000 µF || 25 V || || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C90 || 470 µF || 50 V || || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C91 || 100 µF || 16 V || +50 % / −10 % || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C24 || 22 µF || 25 V || +50 % / −10 % || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C13 || 10 µF || 25 V || +50 % / −10 % || Electrolytic | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C15 || 4.7 µF || 16 V || 20 % || Tantalum | ||
|} | |} | ||
The 250425 has far fewer electrolytics than the earlier boards: positions such as C8, C14, C17, C34 and C57 are 0.1 µF ceramics or are not fitted.<ref name="sm425" /> | |||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align: | === 250466-01 (B-3) === | ||
|+'''250466-01 electrolytics'''<ref name=" | {| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:center;" | ||
! Ref !! | |+'''250466-01 electrolytics'''<ref name="smb3" /> | ||
! Ref !! Capacitance !! Rating !! Package !! Commodore part no. | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C19 || 2200 µF || 16 V || Axial || 900101-33 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C88 || 1000 µF || 25 V || Axial || 900101-50 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C90 || 470 µF || 25 V || Axial || 900101-49 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C91 || 100 µF || 16 V || Radial || 900100-40 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| C24 || 22 µF || 25 V || Radial || 900100-24 | | C24 || 22 µF || 25 V || Radial || 900100-24 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C13 (C210) || 10 µF || 25 V || Radial || 900100-01 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C200 || 2.2 µF || not stated || Radial || 251079-06 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | C15 || 4.7 µF tantalum || 16 V || Radial || 900410-13 | ||
|} | |} | ||
C90 is rated 25 V on the B-3 and 50 V on the earlier boards. C20 on the B-3 is a 0.22 µF 100 V film capacitor, not an electrolytic.<ref name="smb3" /> | |||
== Commodore | == Faults Commodore traces to these parts == | ||
Commodore's troubleshooting table names capacitors in three symptoms.<ref name="smts">''Service Manual C64/C64C'' (1992), "64 Troubleshooting Guide", pp. 14-16.</ref> | |||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:left;" | {| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:100%; text-align:left;" | ||
|+''' | |+'''Capacitor entries in Commodore's troubleshooting guide''' | ||
! Symptom !! Commodore's check | ! Symptom !! Commodore's check | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Intermittent display || C88 (possible bad connection) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Black band scrolls through screen when system warms up || External power supply; C90, C88, CR4; VR2 (5 V regulator) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Wrong frequency || C70 | ||
|} | |} | ||
C70 is a 10 pF mica capacitor in the clock oscillator on the 326298, not an electrolytic.<ref name="sm326" /> The guide lists the external power supply first for the black-band symptom, and the same check heads its "white band scrolls down the screen (60 Hz hum)" entry, which names VR2 but no capacitor.<ref name="smts" /> | |||
== Procedure == | |||
# Measure the power supply's +5 V output before opening the machine. The C64-Wiki treats 4.95-5.10 V as normal and above 5.2 V as a failing supply; most machines it records as killed by their supply had seen more than 6 V.<ref name="c64wps">C64-Wiki, [https://www.c64-wiki.com/wiki/Power_Supply "Power Supply"], section "Failure". Retrieved 2026-10-01.</ref> Replace a high supply before working on the board. | |||
# Note the assembly number and use that board's list. Photograph the power section first. | |||
# Record the polarity of each part. C19, C88 and C90 are axial on the B-3 list; check which end carries the negative stripe before removing them. | |||
# Replace each electrolytic with the same capacitance and a voltage rating at least that shown. C15 on the 250425 and the B-3 is a tantalum part. | |||
# Clean flux from the power section and inspect the joints on VR1, VR2 and CR4, which Commodore names in its "blank screen on power up" entry.<ref name="smts" /> | |||
# Power up and measure the regulator outputs. | |||
== | == Checks after the recap == | ||
{| class="wikitable styled-table" style="width:80%; text-align:center;" | |||
|+'''Supply measurements''' | |||
! Point !! Nominal !! Acceptable | |||
|- | |||
| CN7 pin 5 (+5 V from the external supply) || 5.0 V || 4.95-5.10 V<ref name="c64wps" /> | |||
|- | |||
| VR2 output (+5 V CAN) || 5.0 V || 4.8-5.2 V<ref name="ti78">Texas Instruments, ''LM340, LM340A and LM7805 Family Wide VIN 1.5-A Fixed Voltage Regulators'', SNOSBT0L (revised September 2016), tables 6.6 and 6.7, output voltage at TJ = 25 °C. Commodore fitted Motorola MC7805CT and MC7812CT parts of the same 78xx type.</ref> | |||
|- | |||
| VR1 output (+12 V) || 12.0 V || 11.5-12.5 V<ref name="ti78" /> | |||
|} | |||
The two regulator ranges are the 78xx datasheet limits, not Commodore figures; Commodore's manual gives no tolerance for either rail.<ref name="smps" /> | |||
== Related pages == | == Related pages == | ||
* [[Commodore 64]] · [[Commodore 64C]] · [[Commodore 64C Capacitor Replacement Guide]] | |||
* [[Commodore 64]] · [[Commodore 64C]] · [[Commodore 64 General Maintenance]] · [[Commodore 64 Troubleshooting Guide]] | * [[Commodore 64 General Maintenance]] · [[Commodore 64 Troubleshooting Guide]] | ||
* | * [[Commodore 64 / 64C Service Manual]] · [[Commodore 64 Technical Manual and Parts List]] | ||
* [[Capacitor Failure Symptoms]] · [[Recommended Tools | * [[Commodore 64 Power-Supply Protector (C64 Saver)]] | ||
* [[Capacitor Failure Symptoms]] · [[Recommended Tools]] | |||
== References == | == References == | ||
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[[Category:Commodore Systems]] | [[Category:Commodore Systems]] | ||
[[Category:Capacitor Replacement Guides]] | [[Category:Capacitor Replacement Guides]] | ||