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Replacing electrolytic capacitors (recapping) in your '''Macintosh Centris 660AV''' (also sold as the Quadra 660AV) is essential for long-term reliability. These machines are now over 30 years old, and surface-mount electrolytic capacitors are a common failure point.
This guide covers capacitor replacement on the '''Macintosh Centris 660AV''', sold after Apple's 1993 renaming as the '''[[Macintosh Quadra 660AV|Quadra 660AV]]'''. The two are the same machine and Apple services them in one manual.<ref name="ss660">Apple Computer, ''Centris 660AV/Quadra 660AV Service Source'' โ€” hosted on this wiki as [[:File:Quadra.centris_660av.pdf]]. Chapters used here: Specifications (Processor, Electrical), Troubleshooting (Symptom Charts) and Additional Procedures (Battery Verification, Battery Replacement).</ref>


== Capacitor Inspection ==
Unlike its desktop sibling the [[Macintosh Centris 650]], this machine's logic board '''does''' carry surface-mount aluminium electrolytic capacitors, and they leak. This is the single most important repair fact about the AV machines of this generation.


Before beginning a recap, inspect the logic board for signs of capacitor failure:
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== What Actually Fails ==
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The 660AV logic board carries thirteen surface-mount aluminium electrolytic capacitors. After thirty years the electrolyte creeps out under the can, wicks along the solder mask and eats through the copper. The board is a dense, fine-pitch design and the traces under and around the capacitors are thin, so corrosion breaks connections before it becomes visually obvious.<ref name="ram660">Recap-a-Mac, [https://recapamac.com.au/quadra-660av/ "Macintosh Quadra 660AV"] and the accompanying [https://recapamac.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2020/03/quadra_660av_recap.pdf Quadra 660AV recapping guide] (annotated logic-board photograph, March 2020). Secondary source: a recapping specialist's own photographed board map. Source for the count and values of the logic-board electrolytics (11 ร— 47 ยตF 16 V and 2 ร— 10 ยตF 16 V) and for the recommended Kemet tantalum replacements T491D476K016AT and T491B106K016AT.</ref>
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Symptoms that point at leaked electrolyte rather than anything else:


* '''Bulging Tops''' โ€“ Capacitor tops should be flat. Any bulging indicates failure.
* '''Audio faults first.''' Distorted, crackling, one-sided or missing sound is usually the earliest sign, because several of the electrolytics sit in the audio section and the surrounding traces are among the first to corrode.
* '''Leaking Electrolyte''' โ€“ Brown or tan residue around capacitor bases or on the PCB.
* '''Intermittent or absent start-up chime''' while the fan and drives run normally.
* '''Corrosion or PCB Staining''' โ€“ Electrolyte is corrosive and can damage traces.
* '''Faults that change when the board is flexed or warmed.''' Corroded traces make intermittent joints.
* '''Component Discoloration''' โ€“ Nearby resistors or chips may show heat damage.
* '''Visible residue''' โ€” a dark, slightly glossy halo around a can, or a crusty white-green deposit on nearby pads. Wipe with isopropyl alcohol and look at the pads under magnification; a leaking cap often looks perfect from above.


Even capacitors that appear fine externally may be failing internally. Proactive replacement is recommended for any 660AV that has not been recapped.
Apple's own symptom chart for this machine routes clicking, chirping or thumping noises and dead-on-arrival units to the power supply, and routes two-part error chords at start-up to the DRAM SIMMs and then the logic board.<ref name="ss660" /> None of that catches electrolyte damage, because Apple serviced these at module level and never expected anyone to repair a board.


== Macintosh Centris/Quadra 660AV Capacitor List ==
'''Apple published no capacitor values for this machine.''' The Service Source contains no capacitance, working-voltage or component-designator data anywhere. Everything below is community data from a named source, and you should read the markings on your own board before ordering parts.


=== Logic Board Capacitors ===
== Logic Board Capacitors ==


The 660AV logic board uses primarily surface-mount electrolytic capacitors. The following list is typical for these boards:
Recap-a-Mac's annotated board map, produced from a physical Quadra 660AV logic board, gives the complete count:<ref name="ram660" />


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|+ '''Quadra / Centris 660AV logic board โ€” surface-mount electrolytics'''
|+ '''Logic Board Capacitor Specifications'''
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! Reference !! Capacitance !! Voltage !! Type !! Notes
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| C1 || 47ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic || Audio section
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| C2 || 47ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic || Audio section
|-
| C3 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic ||
|-
| C4 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic ||
|-
|-
| C5 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic ||
! Quantity !! Capacitance !! Voltage
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|-
| C6 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic || ย 
| 11 || 47 ยตF || 16 V
|-
|-
| C7 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic || Near SCSI
| 2 || 10 ยตF || 16 V
|-
| C8 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic ||
|-
| C9 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic || Near ADB
|-
| C10 || 10ยตF || 16V || Electrolytic ||
|-
| C11 || 1ยตF || 50V || Electrolytic ||
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| C12 || 1ยตF || 50V || Electrolytic || ย 
|}
|}


'''Note:''' Capacitor designations and exact values may vary between board revisions. Always verify against the actual markings on your board before ordering replacements.
Thirteen parts, two values. There are no 1 ยตF positions and no 50 V positions on this board. The positions are not laid out in a numbered run โ€” use the annotated map rather than hunting for designators.
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=== Suggested replacements ===


=== Power Supply Capacitors ===
Recap-a-Mac fits solid tantalum parts in these positions, which removes the leakage failure mode permanently:<ref name="ram660" />


The internal power supply also contains electrolytic capacitors that may need replacement. '''Warning:''' Power supplies contain hazardous voltages. Discharge all capacitors before servicing.
* 47 ยตF 16 V โ€” Kemet T491D476K016AT
* 10 ยตF 16 V โ€” Kemet T491B106K016AT


== Replacement Parts ==
Both are 16 V parts sitting on a 5 V rail, which satisfies the usual 50 % derating rule for solid tantalums comfortably. If you substitute, keep that rule in mind: a solid tantalum on a 5 V rail wants at least 10 V, and one on 12 V wants 25 V. Tantalums fail short rather than open, so under-rating one turns a leaky capacitor into a dead short across a supply rail.<ref name="tdtant">TinkerDifferent forum thread [https://tinkerdifferent.com/threads/tantalum-vs-electrolytic-can-i-just-always-use-tantalum.4077/ "Tantalum vs Electrolytic. Can I just always use tantalum?"], posts by Nycturne, Phipli and JDW. Secondary source. Used here for the 50 % voltage derating rule for solid tantalums, for the short-circuit failure mode, and for the note that polymer types fail benignly.</ref>


Recommended replacement types:
Polymer aluminium or polymer tantalum parts are the other sensible choice: same footprint, no leakage, and a benign failure mode.<ref name="tdtant" /> Fresh aluminium SMD electrolytics will work but will eventually do the same thing again.


* '''SMD Electrolytics:''' Panasonic FR, Nichicon UCD, or Rubycon ZLH series
'''Note the polarity convention changes if you switch types.''' On an aluminium electrolytic the stripe marks the '''negative''' terminal; on a tantalum the bar marks the '''positive''' terminal. Fitting a tantalum "the same way round" as the part you removed will destroy it.
* '''Through-hole (if converting):''' Panasonic FM, Nichicon PW, or Rubycon YXJ series
* '''Polymer alternatives:''' Panasonic OS-CON or Nichicon FPCAP (longer lifespan, but check footprint compatibility)


Order replacements with voltage ratings equal to or higher than the originals. Match or exceed the temperature rating (usually 105ยฐC).
== Capacitor Location Diagram ==


== Capacitor Replacement Procedure ==
[[File:Quadra_660AV_Recap_Guide.jpg|thumb|center|500px|Quadra 660AV capacitor location map (Recap-a-Mac)]]


# '''Prepare the workspace''' โ€“ Use an ESD-safe mat and wrist strap. Have good lighting and magnification available.
[[File:Quadra_660AV_Logic_Board.jpg|thumb|center|500px|Quadra 660AV logic board, showing the surface-mount capacitor positions (Recap-a-Mac)]]
# '''Remove the logic board''' โ€“ Disconnect all cables, remove any expansion cards, and slide the board out.
# '''Document capacitor locations''' โ€“ Photograph the board before removing any components.
# '''Desolder old capacitors''' โ€“ Use a temperature-controlled iron (300โ€“350ยฐC) and quality solder wick or a desoldering station. Hot air rework is effective for SMD components.
# '''Clean the pads''' โ€“ Remove all old solder and flux residue with isopropyl alcohol.
# '''Inspect for damage''' โ€“ Check traces around each pad for corrosion. Repair any damaged traces before proceeding.
# '''Install new capacitors''' โ€“ Observe correct polarity (negative stripe to negative pad). Use quality lead-free or leaded solder.
# '''Clean the board''' โ€“ Remove all flux residue with isopropyl alcohol and a brush.
# '''Inspect solder joints''' โ€“ Look for cold joints, bridges, or insufficient solder.
# '''Test before reassembly''' โ€“ Connect minimal components (power, video, keyboard) and verify the machine boots.


== Recommended Tools ==
== Replacement Procedure ==


* Temperature-controlled soldering iron (Hakko FX-888D or equivalent)
# '''Prepare''' โ€” ESD mat and strap, good light, magnification.
* Fine soldering tips (chisel or conical, 1โ€“2mm)
# '''Remove the logic board''' and work on it out of the case.
* Desoldering pump or quality solder wick
# '''Photograph the board''' before touching anything, including close-ups of each capacitor's orientation.
* Hot air rework station (optional but recommended for SMD)
# '''Remove the old capacitors.''' Hot air at around 300 ยฐC, or twist them off with pliers and clean up the pads afterwards. Do not lever them off cold โ€” the pads lift.
* Fine leaded or lead-free solder (0.5โ€“0.8mm)
# '''Clean thoroughly.''' Scrub the area with isopropyl alcohol and a stiff brush, then inspect the pads and the surrounding traces under magnification. Electrolyte left in place carries on corroding.
* Flux (no-clean or water-soluble)
# '''Check continuity''' on every trace running out of the capacitor areas before fitting new parts. A broken trace found now is five minutes' work; found later it is a fault hunt.
* Isopropyl alcohol (90% or higher) and ESD-safe brushes
# '''Fit the new capacitors''', correct way round for the type you are using. Tin one pad, tack one end, solder the other, then reflow the first.
* Multimeter with continuity testing
# '''Clean off the flux''' and inspect every joint.
* Magnification (loupe, magnifying lamp, or microscope)
# '''Test''' with the board out of the case โ€” power, video, keyboard โ€” before reassembling.
* ESD mat and wrist strap
* Safety glasses


== Polarity Identification ==
If leakage has already broken traces, see [[Battery Explosion, Capacitor or Corrosion Damage]] for repair technique, and [[Capacitor Failure Symptoms]] for what failure looks like elsewhere in the machine. See [[Recommended Tools]] for the kit this wiki recommends.


On the Centris/Quadra 660AV logic board:
== Power Supply ==


* '''PCB markings:''' The positive pad is usually marked with a + symbol or a filled pad
The 660AV's internal supply is a mains-rectified switching supply. Its primary side sits at mains potential and the reservoir capacitors hold a lethal charge after the machine is unplugged. Recapping it is a reasonable job, but discharge each large capacitor through a 1 kฮฉ / 5 W resistor and confirm with a meter before touching anything, work one-handed where you can, and do not probe a powered primary side without an isolation transformer.
* '''Capacitor markings:''' The negative side has a stripe, often with minus signs
* '''Reference photos:''' Take pictures before removal to verify orientation


== Voltage Check After Recap ==
'''No verified component-level capacitor list exists for this supply.''' Apple published none, Recap-a-Mac's guide covers the logic board only, and no community list for the 660AV supply could be found. Open yours, read the markings off the parts and work from those. If you produce a list, it is worth posting.


After recapping, verify power rail voltages before extended use:
Apple's electrical specification for the machine is 100โ€“240 V AC, 50โ€“60 Hz, 86 W.<ref name="ss660" /> The supply is self-configuring, so there is no voltage selector to set wrongly.


{| class="wikitable"
== Battery ==
|-
! Rail !! Nominal !! Acceptable Range
|-
| +5V || 5.00V || 4.85V โ€“ 5.15V
|-
| +12V || 12.0V || 11.9V โ€“ 12.7V
|}


== Additional Tips ==
Apple's documented check: set a voltmeter to the 10 V DC range, measure across the cell, and '''replace it if it reads below 3.2 V'''.<ref name="ss660" />


* '''Work in small sections''' โ€“ Replace a few capacitors at a time to avoid errors
A leaking cell attacks the board in exactly the same way leaking capacitors do, and on this board the two kinds of damage often overlap. Check it every time the machine is open.
* '''Don't overheat pads''' โ€“ Limit iron contact to 3โ€“4 seconds to prevent trace lifting
* '''Test incrementally''' โ€“ Boot the machine after each section to isolate any problems
* '''Keep original caps''' โ€“ Store them in case you need to verify values later
* '''Consider tantalum or polymer''' โ€“ For audio circuits, low-ESR polymer caps may improve sound quality
* '''Document your work''' โ€“ Keep notes and photos for future reference


== Related Maintenance Pages ==
== Related Pages ==


* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV General Maintenance]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV General Maintenance]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV Troubleshooting]]
* [[Macintosh Centris 660AV Troubleshooting]]
* [[Macintosh Quadra 840AV Capacitor Replacement Guide]] โ€” the same electrolyte problem, worse
* [[Capacitor Failure Symptoms]]
* [[Recommended Tools]]
== References ==
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Latest revision as of 01:13, 23 September 2026

This guide covers capacitor replacement on the Macintosh Centris 660AV, sold after Apple's 1993 renaming as the Quadra 660AV. The two are the same machine and Apple services them in one manual.[1]

Unlike its desktop sibling the Macintosh Centris 650, this machine's logic board does carry surface-mount aluminium electrolytic capacitors, and they leak. This is the single most important repair fact about the AV machines of this generation.

What Actually Fails

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The 660AV logic board carries thirteen surface-mount aluminium electrolytic capacitors. After thirty years the electrolyte creeps out under the can, wicks along the solder mask and eats through the copper. The board is a dense, fine-pitch design and the traces under and around the capacitors are thin, so corrosion breaks connections before it becomes visually obvious.[2]

Symptoms that point at leaked electrolyte rather than anything else:

  • Audio faults first. Distorted, crackling, one-sided or missing sound is usually the earliest sign, because several of the electrolytics sit in the audio section and the surrounding traces are among the first to corrode.
  • Intermittent or absent start-up chime while the fan and drives run normally.
  • Faults that change when the board is flexed or warmed. Corroded traces make intermittent joints.
  • Visible residue โ€” a dark, slightly glossy halo around a can, or a crusty white-green deposit on nearby pads. Wipe with isopropyl alcohol and look at the pads under magnification; a leaking cap often looks perfect from above.

Apple's own symptom chart for this machine routes clicking, chirping or thumping noises and dead-on-arrival units to the power supply, and routes two-part error chords at start-up to the DRAM SIMMs and then the logic board.[1] None of that catches electrolyte damage, because Apple serviced these at module level and never expected anyone to repair a board.

Apple published no capacitor values for this machine. The Service Source contains no capacitance, working-voltage or component-designator data anywhere. Everything below is community data from a named source, and you should read the markings on your own board before ordering parts.

Logic Board Capacitors

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Recap-a-Mac's annotated board map, produced from a physical Quadra 660AV logic board, gives the complete count:[2]

Quadra / Centris 660AV logic board โ€” surface-mount electrolytics
Quantity Capacitance Voltage
11 47 ยตF 16 V
2 10 ยตF 16 V

Thirteen parts, two values. There are no 1 ยตF positions and no 50 V positions on this board. The positions are not laid out in a numbered run โ€” use the annotated map rather than hunting for designators.

Suggested replacements

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Recap-a-Mac fits solid tantalum parts in these positions, which removes the leakage failure mode permanently:[2]

  • 47 ยตF 16 V โ€” Kemet T491D476K016AT
  • 10 ยตF 16 V โ€” Kemet T491B106K016AT

Both are 16 V parts sitting on a 5 V rail, which satisfies the usual 50 % derating rule for solid tantalums comfortably. If you substitute, keep that rule in mind: a solid tantalum on a 5 V rail wants at least 10 V, and one on 12 V wants 25 V. Tantalums fail short rather than open, so under-rating one turns a leaky capacitor into a dead short across a supply rail.[3]

Polymer aluminium or polymer tantalum parts are the other sensible choice: same footprint, no leakage, and a benign failure mode.[3] Fresh aluminium SMD electrolytics will work but will eventually do the same thing again.

Note the polarity convention changes if you switch types. On an aluminium electrolytic the stripe marks the negative terminal; on a tantalum the bar marks the positive terminal. Fitting a tantalum "the same way round" as the part you removed will destroy it.

Capacitor Location Diagram

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Quadra 660AV capacitor location map (Recap-a-Mac)
Quadra 660AV logic board, showing the surface-mount capacitor positions (Recap-a-Mac)

Replacement Procedure

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  1. Prepare โ€” ESD mat and strap, good light, magnification.
  2. Remove the logic board and work on it out of the case.
  3. Photograph the board before touching anything, including close-ups of each capacitor's orientation.
  4. Remove the old capacitors. Hot air at around 300 ยฐC, or twist them off with pliers and clean up the pads afterwards. Do not lever them off cold โ€” the pads lift.
  5. Clean thoroughly. Scrub the area with isopropyl alcohol and a stiff brush, then inspect the pads and the surrounding traces under magnification. Electrolyte left in place carries on corroding.
  6. Check continuity on every trace running out of the capacitor areas before fitting new parts. A broken trace found now is five minutes' work; found later it is a fault hunt.
  7. Fit the new capacitors, correct way round for the type you are using. Tin one pad, tack one end, solder the other, then reflow the first.
  8. Clean off the flux and inspect every joint.
  9. Test with the board out of the case โ€” power, video, keyboard โ€” before reassembling.

If leakage has already broken traces, see Battery Explosion, Capacitor or Corrosion Damage for repair technique, and Capacitor Failure Symptoms for what failure looks like elsewhere in the machine. See Recommended Tools for the kit this wiki recommends.

Power Supply

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The 660AV's internal supply is a mains-rectified switching supply. Its primary side sits at mains potential and the reservoir capacitors hold a lethal charge after the machine is unplugged. Recapping it is a reasonable job, but discharge each large capacitor through a 1 kฮฉ / 5 W resistor and confirm with a meter before touching anything, work one-handed where you can, and do not probe a powered primary side without an isolation transformer.

No verified component-level capacitor list exists for this supply. Apple published none, Recap-a-Mac's guide covers the logic board only, and no community list for the 660AV supply could be found. Open yours, read the markings off the parts and work from those. If you produce a list, it is worth posting.

Apple's electrical specification for the machine is 100โ€“240 V AC, 50โ€“60 Hz, 86 W.[1] The supply is self-configuring, so there is no voltage selector to set wrongly.

Battery

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Apple's documented check: set a voltmeter to the 10 V DC range, measure across the cell, and replace it if it reads below 3.2 V.[1]

A leaking cell attacks the board in exactly the same way leaking capacitors do, and on this board the two kinds of damage often overlap. Check it every time the machine is open.

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References

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  1. โ†‘ 1.0 1.1 1.2 1.3 Apple Computer, Centris 660AV/Quadra 660AV Service Source โ€” hosted on this wiki as File:Quadra.centris_660av.pdf. Chapters used here: Specifications (Processor, Electrical), Troubleshooting (Symptom Charts) and Additional Procedures (Battery Verification, Battery Replacement).
  2. โ†‘ 2.0 2.1 2.2 Recap-a-Mac, "Macintosh Quadra 660AV" and the accompanying Quadra 660AV recapping guide (annotated logic-board photograph, March 2020). Secondary source: a recapping specialist's own photographed board map. Source for the count and values of the logic-board electrolytics (11 ร— 47 ยตF 16 V and 2 ร— 10 ยตF 16 V) and for the recommended Kemet tantalum replacements T491D476K016AT and T491B106K016AT.
  3. โ†‘ 3.0 3.1 TinkerDifferent forum thread "Tantalum vs Electrolytic. Can I just always use tantalum?", posts by Nycturne, Phipli and JDW. Secondary source. Used here for the 50 % voltage derating rule for solid tantalums, for the short-circuit failure mode, and for the note that polymer types fail benignly.