Macintosh LC III+ Capacitor Replacement Guide: Difference between revisions
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The '''Macintosh LC III+''' is a 33ย MHz version of the | |||
[[Macintosh LC III|LC III]], sold to consumers as the '''Performa 460''', '''466''' and '''467'''. Its | |||
surface-mount electrolytic capacitors have the same thirty-year-old leakage problem as the rest of the | |||
family, and recapping it is essential maintenance. | |||
'''Read your board number before you order parts.''' No capacitor list has ever been published for a | |||
board identified specifically as an LC III+ board, and this page does not invent one. What follows is | |||
what is actually documented, and how to work out which list applies to the machine in front of you. | |||
== What Apple documents == | |||
Apple services the LC III+ as part of the Performa 400 Series, alongside the Performa 400/405, 410, 430, | |||
450 and 475/476.<ref name="ss-p400">Apple Computer, ''Service Source: Macintosh Performa 400 Series'' โ covers the Performa 400/405, 410, 430, 450, 460/466/467 and 475/476. Hosted on this wiki as [[:File:Performa 400 series.pdf]]; see [[Macintosh Performa 400 Series Service Source]].</ref> For the Performa 460/466/467 Apple specifies: | |||
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| | | Processor || Motorola 68030, 33ย MHz, 32-bit internal data bus, burst-mode RAM access, coprocessor socket | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | DRAM || 4ย MB standard, expandable to 36ย MB (80ย ns or faster SIMMs) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | ROM || 1ย MB | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | VRAM || 512ย K on board, upgradable to 768ย K | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Floppy drive || Apple SuperDrive, manual insert | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Hard drive || 80ย MB (Performa 460); 160ย MB (466/467) | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Power supply || Apple 661-1733 โ the same universal 100โ240ย VAC supply used by the whole LC pizza-box family | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Battery || Apple 742-0011, 3.6ย V lithium half-AA | ||
|} | |} | ||
All of the above comes from Apple's Performa 400 Series exploded view and specification | |||
chapters.<ref name="ss-p400" /> Note what this tells you: the chassis, the power supply and the battery are common | |||
with the LC III, and the electrical specification of the LC III+ differs from the 25ย MHz LC III only | |||
in clock speed. | |||
ย | |||
Apple's separate ''Macintosh LC Series / Quadra 605'' volume does not cover the LC III+ at all โ it | |||
stops at the LC III and the LC 475.<ref name="ss-lc">Apple Computer, ''Service Source: Macintosh LC Series / Quadra 605'' โ Specifications, Troubleshooting, Take Apart, Additional Procedures and Exploded View chapters. Hosted on this wiki as [[:File:Quadra 605.lc series.pdf]]; see [[Macintosh LC Series/ Quadra 605 Service Source]].</ref> Neither volume contains component-level capacitor data for | |||
any model, so Apple is not the source for capacitor values on any of these machines. | |||
== | == What is not documented == | ||
Neither of the two community sources that carry per-designator capacitor lists for this family has an | |||
LC III+ entry: | |||
[[File:Mac LC | * '''Recap-a-Mac''' publishes an annotated photograph of an '''820-0650-B''' board, captioned "Macintosh | ||
ย LC III (Performa 450)". It has no LC III+ page.<ref name="ram-lciii">[https://recapamac.com.au/macintosh-lciii/ Recap-a-Mac โ Macintosh LC III (Performa 450)]. Annotated photograph of the 820-0650-B logic board, and Recap-a-Mac's note that C22 on the โ5ย V rail was fitted the wrong way round. Hosted on this wiki as [[:File:Mac LC III Recap Guide.jpg]]. Secondary source.</ref> | |||
* '''Console5''' lists capacitors for boards '''630-0309''' (LC), '''820-0327-A''' (LC II) and | |||
ย '''820-0650-A / 820-0650-B''' (LC III). It has no LC III+ entry.<ref name="console5-lc">[https://wiki.console5.com/wiki/Macintosh_LC Console5 Wiki โ Macintosh LC]. Community-maintained capacitor lists giving per-designator values for logic boards 630-0309 (LC), 820-0327-A (LC II) and 820-0650-A/B (LC III), and for six different LC-family power supplies. Secondary source: not an Apple document, but it agrees value-for-value with the independent Recap-a-Mac photographs.</ref> | |||
Boards sold in the trade as Performa 460/466/467 or LC III+ boards are commonly marked 820-0650-B, the | |||
same number as the LC III board, but this wiki has not verified that on a bench and no published source | |||
states it as fact. Treat it as a strong expectation to be checked, not as a given. | |||
== | == How to work out which list applies == | ||
# Take the logic board out and read the number silk-screened in the top-left corner, beside the Apple copyright notice. | |||
# '''If it reads 820-0650''' (any revision suffix), use the eleven-capacitor list on [[Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide]] โ '''including the C22 warning''', which applies to that board and is the most important thing on this page. | |||
# '''If it reads anything else''', do not assume. Photograph the board, read the value off each capacitor body before you remove it, and count what you find. A board that does not match 820-0650 is not covered by any published list, and this wiki would rather you measured than guessed. | |||
== | == C22 == | ||
If your board is an 820-0650, one capacitor position โ '''C22''', the bulk capacitor on the | |||
โ5ย V rail โ has both its factory placement and its PCB silkscreen reversed, and the | |||
replacement must go in the opposite way round to the silkscreen. This has been verified with a multimeter | |||
and cross-checked against the LC, LC II and LC 475 boards, which are wired correctly. Fitting a tantalum | |||
in the silk-screened orientation has been reported to pull the โ5ย V rail down to about | |||
โ2.3ย V with the capacitor drawing around 1.3ย A.<ref name="ddb">Doug Brown, [https://www.downtowndougbrown.com/2024/11/the-capacitor-that-apple-soldered-incorrectly-at-the-factory/ โThe capacitor that Apple soldered incorrectly at the factoryโ], 26 November 2024. Continuity and voltage measurements showing that C22 on the LC III board has its positive terminal on โ5ย V and its negative terminal on ground; comparison with the LC, LC II and LC 475 boards, which are wired the other way round; and the reported consequences of fitting a tantalum in the silkscreened orientation.</ref> The full explanation, the circuit | |||
description and the continuity check you can run yourself are on | |||
[[Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide]]. | |||
== | == Power supply, battery and procedure == | ||
Common to the whole family and documented on [[Macintosh LC Capacitor Replacement Guide]]: the shared | |||
Apple 661-1733 supply and its six known vendor variants, the removal and fitting procedure, and the | |||
742-0011 lithium battery, which Apple says to replace below 3.0ย V.<ref name="ss-lc" /><ref name="ss-p400" /> | |||
== Related | == Related pages == | ||
* [[Macintosh LC III+]] | * [[Macintosh LC III+]] | ||
* [[Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide]] โ the list for the 820-0650 board | |||
* [[Macintosh LC III+ General Maintenance]] | * [[Macintosh LC III+ General Maintenance]] | ||
* [[Macintosh LC III+ Troubleshooting]] | * [[Macintosh LC III+ Troubleshooting]] | ||
* [[Macintosh LC Capacitor Replacement Guide]] โ shared procedure, power supply and battery | |||
* [[Macintosh Performa 400 Series Service Source]] | |||
== | == References == | ||
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[[Category:Apple Vintage Computers]] | [[Category:Apple Vintage Computers]] | ||
[[Category: Capacitor Replacement Guides]] | [[Category:Capacitor Replacement Guides]] | ||
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Revision as of 00:41, 23 September 2026
The Macintosh LC III+ is a 33 MHz version of the LC III, sold to consumers as the Performa 460, 466 and 467. Its surface-mount electrolytic capacitors have the same thirty-year-old leakage problem as the rest of the family, and recapping it is essential maintenance.
Read your board number before you order parts. No capacitor list has ever been published for a board identified specifically as an LC III+ board, and this page does not invent one. What follows is what is actually documented, and how to work out which list applies to the machine in front of you.
What Apple documents
Apple services the LC III+ as part of the Performa 400 Series, alongside the Performa 400/405, 410, 430, 450 and 475/476.[1] For the Performa 460/466/467 Apple specifies:
| Item | Specification |
|---|---|
| Processor | Motorola 68030, 33 MHz, 32-bit internal data bus, burst-mode RAM access, coprocessor socket |
| DRAM | 4 MB standard, expandable to 36 MB (80 ns or faster SIMMs) |
| ROM | 1 MB |
| VRAM | 512 K on board, upgradable to 768 K |
| Floppy drive | Apple SuperDrive, manual insert |
| Hard drive | 80 MB (Performa 460); 160 MB (466/467) |
| Power supply | Apple 661-1733 โ the same universal 100โ240 VAC supply used by the whole LC pizza-box family |
| Battery | Apple 742-0011, 3.6 V lithium half-AA |
All of the above comes from Apple's Performa 400 Series exploded view and specification chapters.[1] Note what this tells you: the chassis, the power supply and the battery are common with the LC III, and the electrical specification of the LC III+ differs from the 25 MHz LC III only in clock speed.
Apple's separate Macintosh LC Series / Quadra 605 volume does not cover the LC III+ at all โ it stops at the LC III and the LC 475.[2] Neither volume contains component-level capacitor data for any model, so Apple is not the source for capacitor values on any of these machines.
What is not documented
Neither of the two community sources that carry per-designator capacitor lists for this family has an LC III+ entry:
- Recap-a-Mac publishes an annotated photograph of an 820-0650-B board, captioned "Macintosh
LC III (Performa 450)". It has no LC III+ page.[3]
- Console5 lists capacitors for boards 630-0309 (LC), 820-0327-A (LC II) and
820-0650-A / 820-0650-B (LC III). It has no LC III+ entry.[4]
Boards sold in the trade as Performa 460/466/467 or LC III+ boards are commonly marked 820-0650-B, the same number as the LC III board, but this wiki has not verified that on a bench and no published source states it as fact. Treat it as a strong expectation to be checked, not as a given.
How to work out which list applies
- Take the logic board out and read the number silk-screened in the top-left corner, beside the Apple copyright notice.
- If it reads 820-0650 (any revision suffix), use the eleven-capacitor list on Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide โ including the C22 warning, which applies to that board and is the most important thing on this page.
- If it reads anything else, do not assume. Photograph the board, read the value off each capacitor body before you remove it, and count what you find. A board that does not match 820-0650 is not covered by any published list, and this wiki would rather you measured than guessed.
C22
If your board is an 820-0650, one capacitor position โ C22, the bulk capacitor on the โ5 V rail โ has both its factory placement and its PCB silkscreen reversed, and the replacement must go in the opposite way round to the silkscreen. This has been verified with a multimeter and cross-checked against the LC, LC II and LC 475 boards, which are wired correctly. Fitting a tantalum in the silk-screened orientation has been reported to pull the โ5 V rail down to about โ2.3 V with the capacitor drawing around 1.3 A.[5] The full explanation, the circuit description and the continuity check you can run yourself are on Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide.
Power supply, battery and procedure
Common to the whole family and documented on Macintosh LC Capacitor Replacement Guide: the shared Apple 661-1733 supply and its six known vendor variants, the removal and fitting procedure, and the 742-0011 lithium battery, which Apple says to replace below 3.0 V.[2][1]
Related pages
- Macintosh LC III+
- Macintosh LC III Capacitor Replacement Guide โ the list for the 820-0650 board
- Macintosh LC III+ General Maintenance
- Macintosh LC III+ Troubleshooting
- Macintosh LC Capacitor Replacement Guide โ shared procedure, power supply and battery
- Macintosh Performa 400 Series Service Source
References
- โ 1.0 1.1 1.2 Apple Computer, Service Source: Macintosh Performa 400 Series โ covers the Performa 400/405, 410, 430, 450, 460/466/467 and 475/476. Hosted on this wiki as File:Performa 400 series.pdf; see Macintosh Performa 400 Series Service Source.
- โ 2.0 2.1 Apple Computer, Service Source: Macintosh LC Series / Quadra 605 โ Specifications, Troubleshooting, Take Apart, Additional Procedures and Exploded View chapters. Hosted on this wiki as File:Quadra 605.lc series.pdf; see Macintosh LC Series/ Quadra 605 Service Source.
- โ Recap-a-Mac โ Macintosh LC III (Performa 450). Annotated photograph of the 820-0650-B logic board, and Recap-a-Mac's note that C22 on the โ5 V rail was fitted the wrong way round. Hosted on this wiki as File:Mac LC III Recap Guide.jpg. Secondary source.
- โ Console5 Wiki โ Macintosh LC. Community-maintained capacitor lists giving per-designator values for logic boards 630-0309 (LC), 820-0327-A (LC II) and 820-0650-A/B (LC III), and for six different LC-family power supplies. Secondary source: not an Apple document, but it agrees value-for-value with the independent Recap-a-Mac photographs.
- โ Doug Brown, โThe capacitor that Apple soldered incorrectly at the factoryโ, 26 November 2024. Continuity and voltage measurements showing that C22 on the LC III board has its positive terminal on โ5 V and its negative terminal on ground; comparison with the LC, LC II and LC 475 boards, which are wired the other way round; and the reported consequences of fitting a tantalum in the silkscreened orientation.